Lawmakers Should Not Ignore The Changing Images Of Modern Women Outshining Devil

Lawmakers Should Not Ignore The Changing Images Of Modern Women Outshining Devil

It’s really baffling to anticipate that women have changed a lot but the mindset that sees them as a weaker sex remains the same. We continue to treat them as sex which cannot do anything wrong. Interestingly, it had never been the reality. Not even in times when they were icons of virtue. They are equally capable of plotting in a sinister way. In fact, they are far superior in working in evil ways.

Yet we notice that when laws are framed, they are framed treating woman as a harmless creature!  Will anybody explain me what’s the rationale behind this generosity shown by the lawmakers ?

What prevents the lawmakers from anticipating something that’s too obvious even too a person having little knowledge of women’s behaviour? This calculated ignorance on part of lawmakers have turned Indian homes into battlefields. Clash of egos is now so commonplace. The couples suffer but the policemen, lawyers, judges, women organizations and feminist institutions keep making money. The fights are also good for the economy. The couple living separate lives will be viewing television separately!

The times have really changed. Women make babies suffer but forget not to save time for friends, parties and doggies. This drama is, indeed, more comic than ”The Great Indian Laughter Challenge” and at the same time more tragic than disaster hitting the planet earth.

Lawmakers Should Not Ignore The Changing Images Of Modern Women Outshining Devil

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24 responses

  1. Some of the discussions on other sites

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    JustMeAgain from United States Said :

    There wasn’t and isn’t any such thing as a modern woman because the roles woman played and play were from the scrips man wrote from the time man formed all man culture’s ideas of how each gender would behave and add to culture’s survival

    Man created;
    gods
    laws
    medicine
    languages
    cultures
    sciences
    wars
    war-machines that shaped the boundaries humans live within
    and we humans see, if there if a fault with the way man sees woman and woman’s rights nowadays, the the blame is squarely on the backs of man

    Woman are only the secondary part in a story written and told by man but man not wanting to take blame for anything as seen in man’s constant wars, man has to blame something weaker than man …woman

    The mind forming by man was so great that woman bow to men and man gods as if the story told by man ever meant woman to be equal

    To save the poster time
    ”thanks for your comment”

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    My Reply To Just Me Again :

    I still wish to spent few seconds on you saying:

    ”Thanks for the comment”

    I only tried to reveal the other side of the coin. You are free to condemn or appreciate it. In my eyes if one can talk about one side of the coin, one should also be ready to discuss the other side of the coin.

    http://indowaves.instablogs.com/entry/lawmakers-should-not-ignore-the-changing-images-of-modern-women-outshining-devil/#comment-686348

  2. Rohan Said :

    Yet we notice that when laws are framed, they are framed treating woman as harmless creature! Will anybody explain me what’s the rationale behind this generosity shown by the lawmakers ?———————————-The only rationale is the weakness of men for women.

    What prevents the lawmakers from anticipating something that’s too obvious even too a person having little knowledge of women’s behaviour?——————————————-the weakness of sex! You can call it sexual slavery of men.

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    My Response To Rohan :

    Thanks Rohan for bringing more clarity. Thanks for making me sure about the fact that sexual slavery is the root cause which makes men overlook or ignore the flaws of women.

    http://rohandharesh.instablogs.com/entry/why-does-the-indian-government-formulate-wrong-laws/#comment-686142

  3. A Thanks Note For Facebook Users Who Posted This Article On Their Walls In Huge Number :

    I need to thanks all the Facebook users, who not only posted it on their walls but also discussed and shared it with other friends.

    Such gestures are really encouraging for any writer. Some of the prominent names are Rajesh Vakharia and members belonging to Save Family Foundation.

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  4. Now have a look at this sensational episode :

    http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/19/did-the-botox-mom-lie-about-giving-her-8-year-old-daughter-injections/?xid=newsfeed-daily

    Kerry Campbell went on Good Morning America to talk about how she injected her 8-year-old daughter, Britney, with Botox in order to give her a competitive edge in beauty pageants.

  5. Veena Mumtaz Says On Instablogs:

    Guys guys…seems a healthy discussion going here but why are we forgetting its not only about harresments, abusing etc…we all want to live in harmony & peace…then why do we get into these kind of stuffs where no one gets better if got into this harsh & complex web..If we read this article it concludes there should be equal laws and regulations for each one of us… & yes there is..but why do we forget that not each one of us are same..we all are different like 5 fingers of our palm..!! Though there are male harrasments but at the same time female are much more severly abused(mentally & physically)…so we are not supposed to compare who gets what instead should extent out our helping hands for betterment of them & the community

    http://vmumtaz.instablogs.com/entry/women-safety-issue-which-cannot-be-hidden/

    To speak true nowdays money speaks…so either money makes you or you make something out of money…:)

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    My Reply To Veena :

    @Veena Mumtaz

    A very balanced remark. It’s indeed about restoring harmony, which because of the flawed gender-centric laws is a distant dream. I am no anti-feminist, who sees woman on par with Godzilla. I am too interested in seeing man and woman living in happy union. Unfortunately, the flawed laws are wiping out the possibilities of smooth relationship.

    I have always said whenever we become hyper-conscious about our rights minus the duties, it would always lead to end of love and trust between man and woman. That’s the state of affairs now. Anyway, let’s hope better sense prevails, making the over-smart females realize their limitations and stop taking about unnecessary privileges.

    You are right. It’s about money. And that makes me remember about this extremely well written song ”Paisa bolta hai”. Please listen this song. I am posting the video for you and others.

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    http://indowaves.instablogs.com/entry/lawmakers-should-not-ignore-the-changing-images-of-modern-women-outshining-devil/

  6. Rohan Says :

    I am glad to hear that people have attested it to their facebook accounts. We need to spread this message of men’s rights very badly and to whatever extent we can. The expose of the women’s movement’s fraud and shortfalls needs to be addressed too.

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    My Response :

    @Rohan

    Though a writer is merely interested in penning the views, it’s always an encouraging sign when wide no of readers come to read and appreciate the views. Viewed in light of this perspective, I find the developments quite positive. I found many readers not only reading and liking the article but also sharing it with other readers.

    Remember, few years back when we talked about harassment of men, majority took us lightly. They also ignored and ridiculed the views. When I remember those days, I find the recent trend a great sign. It shows now the people have acknowledged the reality. I am sure we would see better developments in future.

    And yes, I shouldn’t forget your role. It’s you who asked me to comment:-)

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    Rohan :

    @Arvind,

    I agree with you. Some years back, I was called a gay, an anti-woman etc. for exposing the changed woman of today. Even today, I get abused like that but that does not make me stop indulging in the spreading of awareness of men’s rights. Read this news item: Actress held for road rage http://rohandharesh.instablogs.com/entry/actress-held-for-road-rage/

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    @Rohan

    Keep doing the good work. The pioneers in any field always get treated in similar fashion. In the long run, the opponents fade into oblivion. Only the good work remains in the end.

  7. Rohan To Veena Mumtaz:

    Veena Mumtaz, It is not true that women get more abused than men. Physically yes. But emotionally, mentally, financially etc., it is the men who are tortured more. Society should realise the problems of men and treat them on par with women. Its time men get their due.

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    Rohan To Myself :

    @Arvind,

    ”I am no anti-feminist, who sees woman on par with Godzilla. I am too interested in seeing man and woman living in happy union.”

    Feminism intends to create disharmony between men and women by attacking the very basis of the gender relationship. Its the most dangerous revolution of our times that is anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage, pro-abortion, and anti-gender harmony.

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    My Response To Rohan:

    @Rohan

    ”It is not true that women get more abused than men. Physically yes. But emotionally, mentally, financially etc., it is the men who are tortured more.”

    ..That’s the hidden reality. We need to uncover this truth and superimpose this truth over the propaganda, lies and half truths projected by the feminists.

  8. Veena Mumtaz To Rohan :

    Rohan…taking responsibility of leading a gud life is tough….it brings u financial, emotional, mental & physical problems,,,,& if u thinks this is what makes a man being abused..then I think he is no ”MAN”…he is just a mere chap or she is just a mere lady who has no goals to deal with or has no love to bare into her/his life…I m sorry to say but what you are trying to depict is totally baseless..:( To live each one of us need support…for exmple if u r commenting here..u r using internet as a browser & a connecting mode to connect both u & us…so same is with life..if u cant deal with it then u have no right to say ill things about it🙂

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    My Response To Veena Mumtaz (On Behalf Of Rohan):

    @Veena Mumtaz

    I think Veena Rohan is saying something from a different perspective. He is not saying that life is a joke devoid of hassles. All he is trying to suggest that in making of a relationship, the man plays an influential role. There is huge investment in terms of emotions and intimate bonds. In case, if the relationship breaks, the man is never in a position to cope it with it. Worse, the society in which we are living has not developed a mechanism to allow men to unleash their emotions in dignified way during such tough times.

    The women on the hand have an edge in dealing with break ups with the help of in-built coping mechanism. Even the help from society is also there as people treat her as weaker sex.

    These stereotypes need to change. In complex times, the situations have changed a lot. Women with help of partisan laws have given to a messy situation. They have become greater shrewd🙂

  9. Rohan Says :

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    @Veena and Arvind,
    ”@Rohan..soory if I flopped the excitment🙂 lol..but I prefer being single..too young to fall into these things wherein I could be a ”GOOD URBAN WOMAN” who’ll never hurt or harm any one :)”—————————————————————————–

    This is what I call confusion between traditional values and modern ones. Why should a man alone be excited when a hint is dropped by a lady? Why not the other way round? I have dated many women and each time, it is I who has had to adjust to their values and circumstances. For example, if you are not romantic, they complain about it. If you are, they say you are not decent. So basically, a man has to understand a woman and adjust his methods to her comfort levels. Veena, this is what I call domination in one sense. Why should a man alone adjust. Besides, everytime I have dated women, I end up paying bills. This is not a personal complaint. It happens with all men. Women expect men to pay all the bills. Equality?

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  10. Veena Says:

    Yes Arvind I knw what Rohan is trying to put through us…and I am not denying…Its just that many times we get influenced or get occupied with the same thing each time that we start beliving that there is nothing better than this and never look into matters which will do us good…we forget smiles, love etc…if 1 threw a stone on us we try to throw a stone back..why cant we just kick the stone like we are playing a game and keep things much lively…I hope Rohan that if you are upto doing something good then you must go for it..

    maybe being at this age I am not able to get the extreme nature of women or men,,,but at the end of the day I pray that everyone of us could live a contented and happy life🙂

    Yup Arvind..I dont believe in using abusive language or other nasty stuff. I prefer simplicity than being complex coz life is to live, enjoy & make ourselves good human…who know if we’ll ever see tomorrow..so its better living a good life with humblness like honey to attract people and help out to bring the best out of them🙂

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    My Response To Veena :

    @Veena Mumtaz

    I must appreciate that you expressed yourself quite well without giving way to abusive terms. We have been in similar debates and I have seen women participants getting very nasty.

    I am really happy that you set a different precedent.

    I must end the conversation now because I feel all important points have been exchanged.

    Thanks a lot Veena for spending your precious moments on my page.

  11. My Comment to Rohan:

    A Song To Inspire Rohan. Keep doing the good work the same way and with same spirit as depicted in this song. A song from Anurag Kashyap’s path-breaking movie” Gulaal”.

  12. Rohan Says:

    @Arvind,

    ”I am no anti-feminist, who sees woman on par with Godzilla. I am too interested in seeing man and woman living in happy union.”

    Feminism intends to create disharmony between men and women by attacking the very basis of the gender relationship. Its the most dangerous revolution of our times that is anti-male, anti-family, anti-marriage, pro-abortion, and anti-gender harmony.

    Rohan To Veena:

    Veena Mumtaz, It is not true that women get more abused than men. Physically yes. But emotionally, mentally, financially etc., it is the men who are tortured more. Society should realise the problems of men and treat them on par with women. Its time men get their due.

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    My Response To Rohan:

    @Rohan

    ”It is not true that women get more abused than men. Physically yes. But emotionally, mentally, financially etc., it is the men who are tortured more.”

    ..That’s the hidden reality. We need to uncover this truth and superimpose this truth over the propaganda, lies and half truths projected by the feminists.

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  13. My Final Comment On The Post:

    @Everybody

    I am happy that Judgment Day didn’t prevent us from expressing our views:-)

    Thanks to all the participants for defying the diktats of nature and taking part in this very meaningful exchange of views.

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    @Rohan

    ”This is what I call confusion between traditional values and modern ones.”

    ..Don’t worry. The painstaking efforts of soul like you would reduce the scope of glaring contradictions in dynamics controlling the man and woman relationship.

    Anyway, it’s time for us to take a short break:-)

  14. One small discussion on booksie.com:
    Aikaterine Said :

    Women are only special because men feel the need to treat them carefully because women are the future mothers to their children. That’s why on the Titanic the order was to first get ”women and children” off the boat because they hold the key to future generations. (I don’t see why, as the world is overpopulated as it is.) Other than that, you’re right, we women are evil and sinister in our own ways. We don’t need special treatment.

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    My response to Aikaterine:

    @Aikaterine

    Well, the post never suggested that women are evil and sinister. You have twisted the truth. I had merely suggested that there was need to take into account new developments that have hit the modern society. It includes women’s flirtation with wrong ways and means. Are women not in league with criminal activities? Aren’t they supporting wrong ways and mean? I fail to understand why shouldn’t we be face to face with the reality? It’s really surprising that whenever there is an attempt to honestly analyze the new trends governing women, there is always a great effort to distort the reality.

    Men can be downrightly guilty but before convicting women one should think many times. That’s a flawed and partisan attitude.

    The society resting on such fallacious assumptions will always remain unstable. Let’s acknowledge the truth. That means intercepting the new trends as they are.

    http://www.booksie.com/editorial_and_opinion/article/munna/lawmakers-should-not-ignore-the-changing-images-of-modern-women-outshining-devil
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  15. Aikaterine Said :

    Women are only special because men feel the need to treat them carefully because women are the future mothers to their children. That’s why on the Titanic the order was to first get ”women and children” off the boat because they hold the key to future generations. (I don’t see why, as the world is overpopulated as it is.) Other than that, you’re right, we women are evil and sinister in our own ways. We don’t need special treatment.

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    Rohan D As A Response To This Comment Said:

    Women are only special because men feel the need to treat them carefully because women are the future mothers to their children.” —————————————————————————-Women are treated specially because of the sexual slavery of men and the tradition of treating them so [something that came about probably in pre-historic times when there was immense threat from nature and animals and human species was on the brink of extinction. This was the same reason why men married several times polygamy because there was a shortage of men then as a result of the dangerous jobs men were into. Lives of men were very very uncertain then. This fact of history was distorted by feminists.]

    ”That’s why on the Titanic the order was to first get ”women and children” off the boat because they hold the key to future generations. (I don’t see why, as the world is overpopulated as it is.”—————————————————-As explained earlier, there those were the times when there was no technology and threat from nature was immense, perhaps less than the pre-historic era, but it was there. There was the tradition that continued through the medieval era from the pre-historic era. The value systems were different then and there were no demands of equality. Men played their role of being protectors and providers and women played their role of being nurturers. Its only after the industrial revolution that women started distorting history and seeking what they called ”gender equality” which has turned out to be female domination. Today, women seek both of these – they want these medieval traditional values to continue and want the modern benefits of so-called equality. They kick tradition in the day and sleep with it at night.

    ”Other than that, you’re right, we women are evil and sinister in our own ways. We don’t need special treatment.”—————————————————————–What do you mean by other than that? You mean to say that women are special, future mothers to their kids and the key to future generations? Are men not special, future fathers and key to future generations?

    BTW, nobody said that women are evil. But yes, they have a mind and know how to manipulate the men.

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    Thanking Rohan I said :

    Your comments are always a treat for the intellect:-)

    I am posting the comment on page from where I borrowed this comment.

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  16. One important Video:

  17. Aikaterine said:

    I see your point, and I see how I sort of misinterpreted the article.

    However, I must diagree with the whole ‘female domination’ thing. Personally, as a teenage girl, I want as much equality and fairness as possible for women. I still don’t think men always give that to us. I don’t seek a female-dominated world because quite honestly that’s not very ideal. And I still find some of those medieval traditions to be nice. Today one of my male classmates held open a door for me. It was very nice, and I felt a bit flattered that there was still chivalry left, but it’s really just not that common. Most men won’t think to do that. Chivalry, though thoughtful, isn’t exactly relevant in our time period anymore.

    I’m not saying all women are evil and sinister, just like all men aren’t, but we are very capable of ourselves to do the same things as men. In some areas, we even excel more than men. By ‘special treatment’, I never disclosed the view that women are special. I meant they are TREATED as though they are special, meaning that they are treated as though they are weak and can’t handle things except around the house. However, I think you misunderstand the ‘manipulating men’ part of a woman. That’s a bit of a stereotype. Not all women know how to manipulate a man into doing their bidding. It’s not exactly a top priority.

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    My Response To Aikaterine :

    @Aikaterine

    I am happy that you are seriously interested in conversation on such a serious and sensitive issue.

    Nobody is against the idea that women should be in league with “equality and fairness”. However, of late, the politics played in name of providing rights to women, has distorted the man-woman relationship. The undue advantages offered to them, all in the name of equality, has made most of the societies feminine in nature!!!

    Well, you cannot say such impressions that “feminization of men” have born out of nothing. It’s a harsh truth that domestication of men is now part and parcel of most of theories aimed at improving the lives of women!!

    I wonder what would be the end result of confrontations triggered by the onslaught of such devilish theories? They have already corrupted the minds of most of the women and as a result of changed behaviour of women, men have given way to formation of institutions aimed at protection of men’s rights. In other words, the gulf between man and woman would widen further in modern society. Or, will such changes give rise to men with instincts of women?

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    http://www.booksie.com/editorial_and_opinion/article/munna/lawmakers-should-not-ignore-the-changing-images-of-modern-women-outshining-devil

  18. Aikaterine said:

    I disagree. I don’t believe many societies are ‘feminine in nature’. Many members of Congress are trying to eliminate abortion in the United States, but have they ever been in that position? Of course not. That is not a feminine society. That is a society ruled by men. Those specific men are not listening to the many complaints pouring in.

    Might I ask what is so wrong with men being feminine and females being masculine? We are all human beings, and we can choose how we want to act and appear. Just because a man is feminine doesn’t mean our whole society is falling to shambles.

    I agree that there is still a clear divide between man and woman in modern society. People are going about freedom and equality the wrong way. Men need to learn that women are just as capable. And women need to learn that it’s okay for men to be in power. They have yet to strike a healthy balance.

    Going back to the whole ‘women know how to manipulate men’ thing, well, I’d also like to say that there are many men out there perfectly capable of taking advantage of a woman’s thoughts and feelings.🙂 There are many creatures on this planet who know how to do this.

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    My response to Aikaterine :

    @Aikaterine

    I read your response with interest. I am posting some excerpts from this very interesting article. The excerpts have dealt with your queries in a thought provoking way. Have a look at it.

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    THE FEMINIST TOTALITARIAN STATE

    (Written by Thomas Pollock aka Spartacus, Editor of The Men’s Tribune)

    Military organizations decline in such a feminist society, because the military is primarily a means of external defense or aggression, the internal “military,” that is the police, increase both in numbers and oppressive tactics as society becomes more inward focused. Thomas Carlyle, commenting on the military patrols (“Patrollotism”) sent out during the French Revolution writes; “Patrollotism represses male Patriotism: but female Patriotism? Will Guards named National thrust their bayonets into the bosoms of women? Such thought, or rather such dim unshaped raw-material of a thought, ferments universally under the female night-cap; and, by earliest daybreak, on slight hint, will explode.” Today, such “Patrollotism” has become heavily institutionalized as patrol cars constantly cruise the city streets on the lookout for men who violate the laws of our feminist society.

    It is well known that the closer people aggregate together, the more feminine qualities they exhibit. As strength and independence fade eventually not even reason has room to operate, for a certain amount of space is required for rational deliberation. The closer proximity of individuals gives rise to a more emotional connection. Obviously more emotional creatures like women and children will be favored by such in such a society, even if they don’t benefit more due to the society’s decline. As the separation between public and private spheres is destroyed, emotional tactics spread from private relationships throughout the public sphere, even in the supposedly impartial setting of the courtroom it is the tears and emotions of women with their sympathetic and deceitful tactics that determine outcomes. Since emotionalism normally requires a close physical presence, the inability of a significant number of individuals getting together in a large state is made up for by technology which artificially increases the connectivity among individuals – and therefore the effectiveness of state propaganda. In the novel “1984,” the T.V. set is the main public means of mind control. The difference in the novel from our own society is that in the novel the method used to make you watch is of a more masculine nature, that is, you are forced to watch under threat of physical punishment. In our own feminist society, you are not physically forced to watch – but mentally, as T.V. programs are made to be entertaining or attractive in order to pull you in and hook you. One of the main reasons why sex is so prevalent on T.V. today is because the most powerful attractive quality of women is their sex appeal, so males from puberty onward are irresistibly drawn into these shows which are then often mixed with with heavy doses of feminist propaganda.

    Where a patriarchal society may posses exterior colonies, the feminist “police state” has “interior colonization” which slowly partitions off the more masculine groups from political and social influence. Men from less advanced civilizations may be completely isolated the way the American “Indians” were forced onto reservations, or they be isolated away from high status positions but reserved for physical labor – as with blacks. But it is different with males who are the products of more advanced societies that have now begun to decline, because these men have the intellectual ability needed to operate an advanced civilization they are not so easily removed. So what happens is that while they continue in high status positions they are are increasing isolated away from enjoying the ends of society and restricted merely to the means. Men may earn more than women, but women control most of the wealth, most of the police are men, but only one prison inmate out of every sixteen is a woman, a man can even be the President of the United States as long as he slavishly supports the interests of women. But let him fall short of their endless demands, and he is labeled as being “insensitive” to the interests of women and drummed out of his position.

    Source: http://menstribune.com/feminist.htm

  19. Rohan D responding to Aikaterine’s remark said:

    @Aikaterine

    Your reply is full of contradiction and at various places, you have made quite opposite statements. Let me give you examples of it.

    ”However, I must disagree with the whole ‘female domination’ thing. Personally, as a teenage girl, I want as much equality and fairness as possible for women. I still don’t think men always give that to us. I don’t seek a female-dominated world because quite honestly that’s not very ideal. And I still find some of those medieval traditions to be nice. Today one of my male classmates held open a door for me. It was very nice, and I felt a bit flattered that there was still chivalry left, but it’s really just not that common. Most men won’t think to do that. Chivalry, though thoughtful, isn’t exactly relevant in our time period anymore.”————————————————

    1. You have said you don’t believe that today the world is female dominated and you say that it is not an ideal thing. 2. You feel that you want as much equality and fairness as possible for women and you are blaming the men accusing them of not giving it. 3. You still find some of those medieval traditions to be nice and you feel flattered but same time you feel that its not relevant in our times.

    May I ask you, in the order of your statements above, what exactly do you mean when you say men don’t give equality to women? Before that, can you define equality? Can you tell me why you like medieval acts of chivalry which are a sharp contradiction to equality when at the same time you want equality and fairness to women? Do you mean equality and fairness only to women? Are you twisting the term ”equality” to mean fairness and justice for women alone? Why do you feel nice and flattered by the same medieval acts of chivalry when it goes against equality? Chivalry and equality are opposites. Don’t forget that.

    In my view, today the world is female dominated for this very reason that women are getting the advantages of the old world chivalry and the new world equality. This is domination. Because men are paying both ways and women are enjoying this.

    ”I’m not saying all women are evil and sinister, just like all men aren’t, but we are very capable of ourselves to do the same things as men.”———————————————————If you are capable of doing the same things as men, why do you seek reservations and concessions? Why is the punishment for crimes committed by women less than those for men? The laws in India are soft on women criminals. We are yet to send a woman criminal to the gallows while we have sent many men. Why? Just because those women criminals are women. Moreover, the arrest rules for women are different from those of men.

    Another point is that, if women are as capable as men, why are they absent in jobs that are physically enduring, dangerous, low-paying and dirty? Most mine-workers are men, most soldiers are men, most fire fighters are men, most construction workers are men.

    This entire concept of ”whatever a man can do, a woman can do and very often better” is modern and industry-oriented. The capitalists have designed it. It is going in parallel to rules of chivalry where women are getting the old world benefits. This is very unfair!

    ”In some areas, we even excel more than men.”———————————————————————————–If so, start giving the advantages of the old world tradition to the men and treat men as ”special” and as the weaker sex.

    ”By ‘special treatment’, I never disclosed the view that women are special. I meant they are TREATED as though they are special, meaning that they are treated as though they are weak and can’t handle things except around the house.”————————————————————————–That is because of the weakness of men for women – sexual slavery of men. If you feel so, why do you enjoy acts of chivalry done by men and hail them? You should condemn chivalry if you believe in equality. You should condemn laws that are pro-women and rules that treat women as ”special” because they are against equality. Women want to have it both ways.

    ”However, I think you misunderstand the ‘manipulating men’ part of a woman. That’s a bit of a stereotype. Not all women know how to manipulate a man into doing their bidding. It’s not exactly a top priority.”————————————————————————–Womenfolk in general know how to manipulate the men. How else can you explain the benefits of tradition and modernity being doled out to them on a platter and men paying it both ways? How else can you explain women talking about equality and being able to do all the things that men do and even better only after the industrial revolution and even in today’s times only in white-collared jobs while men gleefully accept it all? Where were the talks of equality when the threat from nature was immense and providing meant a gamble with nature? Isn’t it clever manipulation of the minds of men?

  20. Responding to the fresh comment by Aikaterine Rohan D Says:

    ”I disagree. I don’t believe many societies are ’feminine in nature’.”———————————————————————————————-Being feminine just means being female dominated. Most countries in the world are female dominated for the simple reason that men are not organised as women are, men’s voice is not given its due in mass media and men’s rights are not recognised in mainstream organisations and the govt.

    ”Many members of Congress are trying to eliminate abortion in the United States, but have they ever been in that position? Of course not. That is not a feminine society. That is a society ruled by men. Those specific men are not listening to the many complaints pouring in.”———————————————————————————I cannot comment on abortion because have not much idea about that debate. But american society is highly feminine because the media, laws, govt. is all feminist. Feminism is the official gender policy there as in Europe and now in Asia.

    ”Might I ask what is so wrong with men being feminine and females being masculine? We are all human beings, and we can choose how we want to act and appear. Just because a man is feminine doesn’t mean our whole society is falling to shambles.”———————————————————————————————————–Its like asking what is wrong in milking a bullock and using a cow to graze the field. All in the name of individual rights. It is misuse of individual rights. More serious issue is about women not being made accountable for their rights. Women are getting the benefits of the world chivalry and new world equality. At will, you women are able to talk about equality and seek equal treatment when it suits you and when it does not, you are able to seek benefits of womanhood. Its a serious manipulation of men and using chivalry to execute equality. Old world chivalry that men are caught up with is being used to unleash equality.

    ”I agree that there is still a clear divide between man and woman in modern society.”———————————————————what do you mean by that?

    ”People are going about freedom and equality the wrong way. Men need to learn that women are just as capable. And women need to learn that it’s okay for men to be in power.They have yet to strike a healthy balance.”——————————————————————————————-As explained earlier, these claims of ”women being as capable as men” are post-industrialisation imports. They never existed in earlier times when threat from nature and the wild was immense and in those days, women were quite happy being inside the four walls while the men protected and provided women, very often at the risk of losing their lives. Secondly, if women are as capable as men, why do women seek well-settled and well-employed men? Why do women seek the same old-world benefits? Its double standards. Women are indulging in double-speak.

    ”Going back to the whole ’women know how to manipulate men’ thing, well, I’d also like to say that there are many men out there perfectly capable of taking advantage of a woman’s thoughts and feelings. :)”————————————————————————- As a class, women are better capable of manipulating men. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have seen men protecting and providing women throughout the ages and all of a sudden, owing to industrialisation, women demanding equality and men doling it out to them on a platter the advantages of old world chivalry and new world equality. Can’t happen without manipulation of men’s weaknesses.

  21. A link that shows new age thinking done by women. I feel it’s better that women should stop thinking. The research shows that they have no problem with masculinity as long as it keeps them happy.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1390319/Scientists-happy-men-significantly-attractive-ladies.html

  22. Rohan said:

    @Arvind,

    Don’t you feel that Aikaterine has contradicted herself in her reply to you and which I have pointed out? I wonder what women really want. One moment, they want to be protected by strong hunks and next moment they want equality and same role as men [read equality of rights minus duties]

    *********************

    My Response To Rohan:

    @Rohan D

    I wish to say something that might appear both strange and fascinating.

    I feel we (you and I) are damn serious, argumentative, penetrative and logical. These attributes are fine amidst people serious enough to concentrate for long in a complicated conversation .

    However, I have been in blogging world for a long time and I have noticed that very few have the ability to participate in serious conversations. It’s another thing that we have had very good conversation with enlightened readers.

    Now I came to notice very serious flaws in approach of Aikaterine. However, I chose to remain silent over contradictions inherent in the views of Aikaterine and instead focused on issues raised by her. Had I been extremely conscious of her flaws, she would have taken the things more personally. That way we would have lost a reader along with her precious views.

    It means that we cannot be that precise all the time in blogosphere. Sometimes we need to ignore the minor flaws of reader. I see the contradictions of Aikaterine that way.

    Remember, this girl is in her teens. I am happy that she had the courage to express her views in such a serious issue. Okay, she was not able to keep secret her deeper intentions. Let’s ignore her flaws and remain concentrated on views offered by her. At least, it’s giving an opportunity to know a reader.

    *******************

    I added more to my remark :

    One thing more. It’s not that one is not aware of intentions of readers but it’s better that one remains focused on important concerns in any discussion.
    Unless it’s required badly, it’s better that we avoid dissecting hidden motives of the readers.

    The problem is that the moment we start analyzing anyone’s intentions (in form of contradictions) apart from the issue at stake, the conversations often become too personal, wayward and vulgar.

    I have seen you Rohan on other forums and thus aware of the fact that readers mince no words when someone makes a comment on their mannerism and motives. Amidst all this exchange of vulgar words, the real issues take a backseat. Even on Instablogs this had been the case often. People enter and start asking about your credentials and etc. That’s done deliberately to deviate the attention from main issues.

    I am happy that disturbing elements have kept themselves away from this conversation, who are known for killing the debates with their idiotic queries. It’s a long smooth conversation only because I find the devils sleeping!!

    In nutshell, the point is that let’s become too subtle only when it becomes imperative to do so,when there are people wise enough to intercept your take in a refined way. Or else, the readers will find it hard to express their views and opinions.

    In the end sharing this Urdu Couplet by Taufail Chaturvedi:

    Har ek bauna mere kad ko napta hai yeha

    Mai Saare Sahar Se Uljho Mere Ilahi Kya

    ( I find minnows measuring my worth every now and then,

    O Lord! Should I enter into confrontation with whole city ? )

    ***********************

    Rohan said:

    I got what you meant now. I thought you would be pointing her mistakes and contradictions which you did not and was wondering why. Now, I understand.

  23. Rohan’s Remark to Veena :

    ******************

    @Veena,
    You should read this book

    ”The Manipulated Man by
    Esther Vilar”

    A SHORT REVIEW MY ONE OF ITS READERS BELOW:

    ”This is one of the most enlightening books I’ve ever read. Esther Vilar is one of the few women who dare to criticize their own sex and the way feminism is going. But she makes clear that she *does* want women to be emancipated – as long as they are willing to accept responsibilities the way men do. Vilar is able to explain why discrimination against women in the professional world is women’s own fault: the pay cheque of a man who is prepared to support his wife for years is more valuable and necessary than the pay cheque of a woman who won’t support a man and who insists on a money-earning husband.
    Quote: ”The ’woman with a family’ – the woman who supports a healthy man and his children all her life – is practically unknown in the professional world. Who should be held responsible for this situation: employer or woman?” (to be found in the last but one chapter, the one about Women’s Lib)

    It may seem impolite when I say it, but it’s a plain fact that most women only marry men who want to earn money and that women – at the same time – have the nerve to say that no man wants to stay at home anyway…

    It’s also a plain fact that Esther Vilar has been the victim of censorship (however ”unofficial” censorship it may be): in the most important Western country, the U.S., The Manipulated Man has been removed from many libraries, most of her other work is not even sold in English. TV stations, magazines and papers in most Western countries constantly ignore everything Esther Vilar writes and says. Coincidence? Besides, there are many people on the Internet who claim that they’ve read her books, but deliberately tell lies about her books: e.g. they say that Vilar is old-fashioned and that she wants women to stay at home – a simple lie. Some anonymous people even insult Vilar’s fans, using offensive words – the main characteristic of those haters is their unability to discuss the real *contents* of Vilar’s books and to give reasons for their opinions…

    …and so I really wonder how much time will pass until everyone finally realizes that *both* men and women can benefit from this book. I like the text on the back of the cover which says: ”[…] But Vilar’s intention is not misogynous. She maintains that only if men and women look at their place in society with honesty, will there be any hope for change.”

    ***********

  24. Thanks internalsoundseepingout for liking it…

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