They were pretty diabolical in their approach…Before leaving, they gifted us the Pandora’s Box

A very interesting take on the whole issue…You are right that governance in the hands of extremist forces like Hamas and the ambiguous approach of US have made the situation murkier there…It would also not be out of tune to suggest that wherever Britishers came to settle, they gave rise to complex set of issues and then left that place without resolving them…

Hope that Middle East does not become a nightmare for innocent souls..In Kashmir also the same thing has happened, albeit in a different way..Today the natives- the Kashmiri Pandits- have been driven away from their motherland to live like nomads in other parts of India. Now the extremists demand a referendum, knowing very well that absence of Kashmiri Pandits means an absolute majority in their favour.

The pretext in the case of the middle east is, and has always been, securing the oil supply. Not all Americans agree with this policy, so let’s say “American leadership”. It has been so for Bush (1&2) and so for Obama. Viet Nam was practice for the US and the lessons have been learned, and are being exploited in the middle east.

The apparent retreat by Obama from a policy of dual states to a more grass-roots approach, putting the onus on the ctizens of Israel and the Palestinian Athourity is destined to fail because those citizens have elected Hamas and the government of Netanyahu.

Hamas has continually stated that Israel’s presence is not acceptable and they will not rest until the country is obliterated. For his part, Netanyahu has been open to negotiate, but he will not roll over and allow the destruction of Israel.

The citizens have spoken. They are more for the status quo than supporting a progress toward peace.

Thanks to you Arvind K Pandey Ji for such a wonderful post ..

I have read Gandhi ji on Palestine and I agree with his support of Palestinian anti-colonial struggle.

Chandrapal S Bhasker Arvind bhai, there is no Israel as there was no British India but an India colonised by Britain. Zionists are European colonisers who were planted in Palestine by the Brits. Wikipedia is beginner’s guide to politics as seen by the western ruling discourses. Try any books by people who have some research in the matter. Anything by Ilan Pappé, Finkelstein, Edward Said, Chomsky, Shlomo Sand, M Shahid Alam, etc will be a good start….

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Author’s Response:

Chomsky and Edward Said are familiar names for my ears …Anyway, I will definitely heed to your desires …Just now found an article on par with your findings, which confirm the authenticity of what you just said…

“The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)”….

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Just read Gandhi’s View On The whole Issue:

Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French…What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct…If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs… As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regard as an unacceptable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds.” Mahatma Gandhi, quoted in “A Land of Two Peoples” ed. Mendes-Flohr. (1938)

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

Asal me jo raajneeti karte the bcci ke baashinde—unke baare me kaun chaapega book/article———— ganguly was & is best………….. he was never a boot-licker…………. agar itna gaya guzra ghamandi hota toh kamse kam tendulkar kumble dravid sehwag zaheer harbhajan kabhi to kuch to bolte—– mai aaj itne din baad is page pe ye article padh raha hu—-behes karne jaau to fehrist lambi niklegi daleelon ki——– dhoni aur gambhir kam hain kya? rajiv shukla-kiran more kam hain kya………..gavaskar once said famously that he will never be a boot-licker….iska khamiyaaza dada ko uthana pada—- mai bihari hokar dhoni ko nahi….dada ko maanta hu………………aur waise bhi sabki apni apni raai aur soch hoti hai–pasand-napasand hoti hai…

Author’s Response:

I admire your concerns.,..It only proves that cricket no more remains the game associated with gentlemen…One expected a player like Ganguly to set better precedents but, however, he gave way to lesser traits..Anyway, you can say that ” is hamaam me sab nange hai!!

“Israel” and Palestine conflict is a conflict between colonisers and the colonised. Bill Kirkman doesn’t either have a basic historical knowledge or like most liberal/conservative western ideologues/writers he is on the neo-colonial bandwangon singing the songs of “democracy”, “civilisation”, freedom etc to the barbarians. [albeit depending upon their expressed political inclination in varying tones]

Author’s Response:

“The Israeli–Palestinian conflict is the ongoing struggle between Israelis and Palestinians that began in the early 20th century.[2] The conflict is wide-ranging, and the term is also used in reference to the earlier phases of the same conflict, between the Zionist yishuv and the Arab population living in Palestine under Ottoman and then British rule. It forms part of the wider Arab–Israeli conflict. The remaining key issues are: mutual recognition, borders, security, water rights, control of Jerusalem, Israeli settlements,[3] Palestinian freedom of movement[4] and finding a resolution to the refugee question.”…

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

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The conflicts, it appeared, began during the Ottoman empire…..It manifested into different shapes with the advent of time…

Dil khush ho gaya Anvind ji jo smritiyon se ubhar kar satah par ayaa ye madhoortam aur apne hi rang ka ek maulik sukoon bhara gaana …Mukesh-Shailendra-S&J rare triputi…Unbeatable !